Digital library (interview) RAI Educational

Michael Metz

New York, 15/12/97

"Apple and educational software"

SUMMARY:

  • Apple Computer sells hundreds of thousands of computers to US schools every year but also sells the software, the installation services, the consulting service, and the training, so that schools can integrate the technology into their curriculum (1).
  • Apple invented the concept of computers that are easy to use and will continue to build interfaces specifically for the needs of the students and teachers in US schools and around the world (2).
  • In 1996 President Clinton announced his Technology Literacy Challenge, challenging the teachers, administrators and business people of the United States to make technology in schools more successful. He talked about four "C's": computers, content, connectivity and competency, or the development and training of the teachers to take advantage of the technology that they have in the classroom (3).
  • Apple is developing the Learning Interchange, an educational intranet that collects all the best educational content and curriculum on the Internet and leaves it in a protected area where students can access it without the concerns of the other objectionable material on the Web (4).
  • Most of the data shows that boys tend to be more attracted to computers than girls. However, in the last year or two in the United States exciting new companies like Purple Moon have begun producing software specifically for girls (5).
  • All Apple's educational software packages provide an extra set of tools specifically for teachers of students with disabilities (6).
  • Home learning is a very big growth area in the United States: more and more parents are making the decision to take them out of the school system. Collaborating over the Internet and communicating with experts and accessing expert information will stimulate more home learning and distance learning opportunities (7).
  • Apple has been committed to providing the lowest cost computers to education since Steve Jobs and Steve Woszniak founded the company twenty years ago. The latest development is E-Mate 300, a low-cost mobile computer sold in the United States for less than US$700 (8).
  • Education is a very big part of Apple's business and it always has been and it always will be, because the company works directly with schools, listens to its customers, and understands that those education customers are very different than business customers or people in homes (9).

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INTERVIEW:

Question 1
What educational projects is Apple currently working on?

Answer
In education, Apple Computer believes that the successful use of technology is about much more than just computers. So we sell hundreds of thousands of computers to US schools every year but we also sell lots of software, educational software, multimedia software, Internet-based software. We sell training and staff development as well as professional services to make the installation of the computer successful in schools. I'm responsible for all of those other "solutions and services", as well call them. There are about 116,000 US schools in the K-12 (kindergarten to 12th grade) marketplace in the United States. Apple Computers sells computers to every one of those schools. Almost every school in the United States has at least one Apple computer. Many of them have thousands and thousands of computers. Apple calls directly on those schools with salespeople. We have over 700 people across the United States, and we work with many other companies and third parties to sell our products, and our solutions, and our services. We sell directly to the schools and we advertise directly to the schools. Schools pick up the telephone and they call Apple, they ask for advice and consulting service, and we provide them information about our products, about how to use technology in the schools. Then they place and order and send it directly to Apple Computer. They don't go to another reseller or any place else. That is a direct business for us. The advantage of that for Apple is that first we get to deliver the lowest price to US schools, our absolute lowest price of any of our customers in the United States is offered to our schools. And secondly, we have a direct relationship with our customers, so when they are upset, they call us up and they tell us. When they're happy, they call us up and they tell us too. So we have with our direct business the ability to provide low-cast solutions as well as have a direct relationship with our customers. What we also do is we provide a unique set of products to our K-12 customers. Our all-in-one computer has the speakers and the microphone built in, because schoolchildren tend to knock the speakers off the desk or they lose the microphone. So we pioneered having a built-in set of speakers and a built-in microphone. We pioneered having a monitor that tilts and swivels, because some of the children are short in kindergarten and first grade, and some of the children are taller in middle schools and high schools. So many products like that we've built specifically just for schoolchildren. Our E-mate 300 was designed specifically with the input of K-12 teachers, students, principals and administrators. So to make a long story short, we have a very unique business in the United States around our K-12 customers in that it is a direct business with a product line specifically designed for K-12 customers. We sell not just the computers they need but also the software, the installation services, the consulting service, and the training, so that they can integrate the technology into their curriculum.

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Question 2
Apple Computer invented the icon interface. What's the future for this type of interface?

Answer
If you want details on the interface of the future, you'll have to ask Steve Jobs. What we know is that Apple invented the graphic user interface. Apple invented the concept of computers that are easy to use. You could look towards areas like voice recognition for the future, where you simply talk to the computer and the computer calls up the program that you want, as possible areas of development. But you can be assured that Apple Computer will be building interfaces specifically for the needs of the students and teachers in US schools and around the world, for that matter, that will be easier to use, to set up, to install and to service and to support and take care of, easier to network and do all the things that you have to do to make technology successful at school.

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Question 3
I'd like your opinion about information for children and teachers. What do we need to do to enable someone to use a computer? Are there different programs written for teachers?

Answer
President Clinton made an announcement in 1996 - his Technology Literacy Challenge - where he challenged the teachers, administrators and business people of the United States to make technology in schools more successful than it has been in the past. He talked about four "C's". His four "C's" were: first computers, and he said we were doing a pretty good job with computers - Apple and IBM and Dell and the others sell hundreds of thousands of computers . The second "C" was content: we're not doing so well at getting multimedia, robust-rich content into our schools. Much of the software that's used is the old "drill and kill" practice software, which is important for rote memorization but it doesn't move us into the area of content creation, publishing on the Internet, and that sort of thing. So President Clinton's second pillar, as he referred to it, was multimedia, robust, full content. The third "C" is connectivity and that refers to the Internet. President Clinton challenged American schools to provide Internet access to every classroom in the United States, as well as to the homes of the United States. The fourth "C" is the most important: competency or development and training of the teachers to take advantage of the technology that they have in the classroom. If you have computers, connectivity ,and multimedia content, you still need competency on the part of the teachers, the educators. In many classrooms across the United States the students are more adept and used to technology than the teachers. We need to spend a lot more time bringing up the capabilities and the competency of our teachers to teach them how to integrate the technology into what they do on a daily basis, so that when they're teaching creative writing the technology and the computers are there as part of the class. When they're teaching mathematics, they're using multimedia geometry software to teach mathematics, when they're teaching publishing, it's not just the publishing of a newspaper but it's publishing to the WWW and showing the content and the capabilities of the students on the WWW. Many of our teachers are not able to teach the kinds of skills that we need. Apple Computer plays a significant role in helping teachers, through our staff development courses, create knowledge workers of the 21st century. Those are students who can publish to the Web, create multimedia output, use communications and collaboration software over the Internet, and have the skills that they need in order to be successful in the 21st century.

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Question 4
How is the Internet involved in the project of education and educating students for the future? What's the relationship between education and the Internet?

Answer
The question of objectionable content is a very sensitive one. Apple has no total position on this subject. We believe it is up to every school district to create their own policies. Some school districts believe that it's important to have no censorship and access to all information on the Web. Obviously, in that kind of situation parental or teacher supervision is very important. Other schools believe that there is a role for filtering software that allows Web pages to be held together in the school and only a certain set of Web pages to be accessed by the students. One of the things we're working on at Apple we call the Learning Interchange. That is a set of educational content Web pages or home pages, an intranet, if you will, an educational intranet that collects all the best educational content and curriculum on the Internet and leaves it in a protected area on the Internet where students can access it without the concerns of the other objectionable material on the Web. Overall, the Internet is becoming a critical piece of US education. The access to information from the Library of Congress, to NASA, to all the great universities and libraries around the world, the great art treasures of Italy over the Internet is becoming available now to every student in every small community around the world. That changes how education is conducted, that fundamentally changes how learning and teaching take place in every classroom. The challenge is to teach the teachers, to help teachers to integrate that information access, into their curriculum. The Internet also provides great opportunities for collaboration around the world, so that students in Washington, DC can collaborate over the Internet with students in Rome. Given the language problems, we would have to deal with that, but there's no reason now why world-wide collaborative education projects cannot involve students from around the world, and in many cases actually do. So information access, collaboration across the Internet, these are ways that students are preparing for a 21st century world that really is nothing like we had when we were growing up.

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Question 5
Girls are usually less attracted to computers. Do you think we need a different project to attract girls?

Answer
That is a really complicated topic. Most of the data shows that boys tend to be more attracted to computers. They use the Internet differently, they are attracted to some software more than girls are. What has been taking place over the last year or two in the United States is a booming industry for girls. I have a ten-year old daughter, as a matter of fact, who uses the computer quite a bit, but there are new educational software companies that are growing up that are specifically targeting girls as a submarket that has not been spoken to directly in the past, whereas boys have lots of shoot'em up games and more active kinds of games. Different kinds of software and different kinds of computer usage appeal to girls. I don't think the industry has been as successful at finding those software packages and those artifacts of technology to attract girls as well as they have done with boys. It's a different market so it needs to be addressed differently in some ways and lots of exciting new companies are beginning to do that and are finding a very good return on their investment by doing that. Purple Moon is one of the more successful girls' software companies that I'm very familiar with. In fact, my daughter has asked for some of their software for Christmas.

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Question 6
Do you have any special projects for the mentally impaired and the handicapped?

Answer
Apple has been committed to providing software/hardware technology to people with various disabilities from the beginning of our history. Apple is one of the largest suppliers of educational software to US schools right now through our "solution bundles". We have about fifteen different software packages with middle school math or high school science or first and second grade language and literacy. In every one of those software bundles we provide an extra set of tools specifically for teachers of students with disabilities, so that if a disabled student is in a high school mathematics class, for example, and the teacher buys Apple computers with Apple software for it, the teacher finds within that package special instructions and special curriculum specifically designed for children with disabilities around teaching of mathematics; the same thing with science programs that we offer, or language and literacy programs that we offer also.

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Question 7
Is there any project for distance learning?

Answer
The topic of distance learning is a very hot topic right now, especially with the Internet, as you can imagine. The need for remote learning and distance learning has been with us for some time but now that almost any home in the United States has access to the Internet, the possibilities are growing. The Learning Interchange , the education intranet, is an opportunity for us to provide learning materials, teaching materials, content and curriculum to any student no matter how remote they might be from an expert or an expert teacher. So for example if I am a teacher in a small town and I don't have access to scientists from NASA, the National Association of Space and Aeronautics, I can go on the Internet and bring that expert to my students in a small town in Montana who would never have access to that sort of teacher before. Home learning is a very big growth area in the United States: more and more parents are making the decision to teach their children at home, to take them out of the school system. The father may go off to work and the mother stays home and teaches the students. It's perfectly legal. Collaborating over the Internet and communicating with experts and accessing expert information and great works of art, will only stimulate more and more home learning and distance learning opportunities.

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Question 8
There are a lot of people who cannot afford a computer or the right software. Is there any special project for giving the same opportunity to everyone?

Answer
Apple has been committed to providing the lowest cost computers to education since Steve Jobs and Steve Woszniak founded the company twenty years ago. We've always provided the absolute lowest cost to schools because we wanted pervasive computing in as many classrooms and computers as we could around the world. Over the last year Apple has been taking the lead in driving the cost down even further with our E-Mate 300, which is a low-cost mobile computer that we sell in the United States for less than US$700. It is a computer that is small and lightweight; it's three and a half pounds. We also sell it in Europe. We sell it world-wide to schools. It has within it word processing, spreadsheet, e-mail, Internet access, Web browsing capabilities. It doesn't have a full multimedia robustness that a desktop computer has but then, it costs less than US$700 in the United States. So our intent is to build the best products we can that meet the needs of the largest possible audience at the lowest possible price for K-12 schoolchildren around the world. Let's talk about the Power of Ten for a moment. This is a program that was introduced into the United States recently and we may well expand it to other countries. The idea is to tap into the parents of the United States who may well be buying computers for the Christmas season, for example. If a parent or a community member buys a computer, this holiday season in the United States, they can designate a specific school to which their children might go or, if they don't have children, to a local school. Apple Computer will donate ten percent of the cost of that computer that these people have bought to that school. So that school, if they accumulate enough dollars, can go and order computers or printers or any other products from Apple Computer.

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Question 9
Do you want to add some new projects for 1998?

Answer
I think that the most important thing that you have to understand about Apple Computer and education is that Apple thinks different. Apple thinks different about education and about technology and education. Whereas many computer companies simply sell computers to schools, Apple Computer thinks differently about the way teachers and students use technology in schools. We think about the content, the software, the Internet access, the networking capabilities, as well as the staff development and the training that has to go along with it to make this a successful experience in the schools. Apple is first and foremost an education company. Education is a very big part of Apple's business and it always has been and it always will be, because we work directly with the schools, we listen to those customers, and we understand that those education customers are very different than business customers or people in homes. They have very different needs. And we treat the education customers differently, we build different products for them, we offer them different services, and we market and sell to them differently too.

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