Digital library (interview) RAI Educational

John Gage

Nice - Sophia Antipolis, 10/09/97

"Internet and public participation"

SUMMARY:

  • The children of today grow up using new tools and speak to each other in new ways; they assume they can share, communicate and interact with other people (1).
  • Net Day was a voluntary initiative by 100,000 parents in California to connect 4,000 schools to the Internet (2).
  • In Europe there have been Net Days in Great Britain, France, Finland, Sweden, and the Netherlands (3).
  • The goal of all communities is to provide a safe and healthy environment for people to live. That involves communication .and as the new technologies of communication become cheaper, everyone will be able to participate in the way their own city or town functions (4).
  • In all technological change, the most important thing is to bring the price down and make it easier to use. The old boundaries that separated the telephone company from the electricity company from the cable company are being erased as everything becomes digital. Very soon the cost of cellular telephony will be less than conventional telephony (5).

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INTERVIEW:

Question 1
You have talked about smart communities for smart children. What do mean by that?

Answer
The generations that grow up enter a new world, use new tools and speak to each other in new ways. My child has completely differently ways of thinking about what television is, what the world outside our home is because of the Internet. Suddenly, on the screen my child can read an Italian newspaper, watch French television, go to Singapore, and she thinks it is normal. It is not normal to me. It is something that took a lot of work and investment. So what we’re seeing in a smart community is a new generation that assumes they can share, communicate and interact with other people. The older generation thinks that to determine the future of your town, you must go to a meeting in a hall. But the child today does not need to travel, does not need to go to the meeting hall, but has information about the town., about the street, about their neighbours right there on the Internet.

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Question 2
What is a Net Day ?

Answer
In California, parents want their children to be involved in high technology. It means jobs, being part of the new global economy. But the schools in California don’t have any money. So parents decided to go into their own child’s school and put in all the networking technology, put the wire in, go to businesses, get the computers and bring them in. They decided to do it as volunteers one day. So Net Day was a volunteer activity when 100,000 parents in California on one Saturday morning went to 4,000 schools, and in one day wired the schools to go on the Internet.

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Question 3
And in Europe?

Answer
Europe is very different from the United States. In California, for example, there are over 1000 separate school districts that are run locally. In Europe you have a ministries of education, centralisation. Nonetheless, in Europe in the last week of October there will be Net Days in England, France, Finland, Sweden, and the Netherlands. People are going to their child’s school, putting in the wire that allows a classroom to be linked to a central point in the school and then out to the Internet. So parents, often engineers, are going to their own child’s school to do what they know how to do today because the parents work for Thompson or Philips or Olivetti.

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Question 4
What are the objectives of a Smart Community?

Answer
I think the goal for all communities is to provide a safe and healthy environment for people to live, where families can, grow children can learn, and you can feel happy. People have different ways of living. The mayor of a city a city as big as Turin, has very serious problems to solve to make the city a good place to live: the water must be clean, the power must be good, the streets must be clean, there must one police force to keep people safe. All of the ways of doing that involve communication. And as the new technologies of communication become cheap and ways to publish become ubiquitous, everyone has access, everyone can participate in the way their own city or town works. Today, if I want to be involved in the way my city works, I have to go to a meeting. It is a long meeting, and I may not have time to do it. But if I could see the budget, if I can see a little bit of what affects me on my computer screen, free on the Internet, I’m a better citizen, I’m better informed about my community. When something threatened my community, whether it is crime, or bad water, or something that affects my children, I could find out about it very quickly. Why don’t newspapers do this? Because even a large newspaper can only cover a tiny bit of news. The largest newspapers in Rome or in Milan can only cover the big topics; they can’t cover a school out in the countryside. But on the Internet, everyone can be a newspaper publisher and everyone can tell the world what they have, what they need, and what could be better about their town or their school or the life they lead.

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Question 5
You say that the culture of telecommunication and the culture of computers is very different. Can you explain what you mean by that?

Answer
In all the technological changes, the most important thing is to bring the price of the technology down and make it easier to use. No one will use something that’s complicated and expensive, but when the telephone became cheap, everyone got a telephone. When the video tape recorder became cheap, everyone got one. The same is happening with computers, and most of the change is coming, firstly because the technology becomes twice as fast and one half as expensive every 18 months, and secondly because the networks are now becoming free. Because the high bandwidth, the speed that you can send information is easy to do; fibre has infinite bandwidth, fibre is just glass. It is being installed in cities around Italy every day. The power companies and telephone companies are all doing it. The radio, wireless, the cellular telephone companies suddenly link people that are in very remote places into the network. All of these technical events coming together at the same time as deregulation of the telephone monopolies is causing this huge shift. And that’s why the Net Day idea that a school can link to the international Internet and do it for very little money is now possible.The existing telephone companies have a way of making money that is based on voice. But today the voice goes into small packets, which can be transmitted across radio, across wire, across fibre, across cable. The old boundaries that separated the telephone company from the electricity company from the cable company are erased. Everything is digital, which means that information can pass through any pathway and the cheapest pathway wins. Today for someone in a home to speak to their mother, they use a telephone with a copper wire. Very soon the cost of cellular will be so cheap, it’ll be easier to use a cellular telephone, which is just a computer and a radio. As the new radio technologies come down from the satellites, you could be anywhere in the mountains, anywhere on the ocean, and speak to the satellite, and the cost of that can be less than the cost today for a wire telephone.

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