Digital library (interview) RAI Educational

Glover T. Ferguson

Paris - IDC, 23/09/97

"The Internet as a commercial channel"

SUMMARY:

  • Electronic commerce is a very approach to business. It is a way of connecting the business to its customers and suppliers (1).
  • The business can run more efficiently internally, which reduces costs. There are still concerns about security, but it is only a question of standardising the technologies to deal with the risks (2).
  • Using the Internet for purchases is like using a credit card: what you lose in privacy you gain in convenience (3).
  • It is true that your actions over the Internet can be traced, so we need to make sure that citizens are protected (4).
  • What does not show up on research is the fact that buying on the Internet allows the customer to be better informed about the products and the best deals available (5).
  • The network does not replace the old reality, it augments it. An example is the Levi application, where you are measured in a store, and they make a customised pair of jeans for you. They have a virtual representation of you in the system, and you get a physical product from them (6).
  • Virtual banking and direct banking save the cost of a branch and allow experts to be on hand to answer complex questions (7).
  • An example of business-to-business applications is collaborative forecasting and replenishment where two businesses share data that they did not share before (8).
  • The same technologies are being used to reinvent government in many ways. One example is that of a welfare client who needs to know about benefits, training opportunities, job openings and child care - information usually only available from many different sources (9).
  • Twenty different government, private and volunteer organisations in the Cambridge area in the UK pooled their resources and built a web site combining all the information needed by a welfare client. The site was made available in public kiosks in libraries, government buildings etc., and early results suggest they are very successful (10).
  • The social aspect of shopping can be recreated on the Internet (11).
  • The benefit of advertising on the Internet is that you can tell what it was that interested the client. The model is still evolving but will eventually be successful (12).
  • Push technology is not successful if it acts like junk mail: it is successful if it gives the user customised, useful information (13).

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INTERVIEW:

Question 1
What is electronic commerce and why is Andersen Consulting betting on it?

Answer
We believe electronic commerce is a point of view, a way of looking at business that is quite different from what weíve seen in the past. It is a way of connecting the business to its customers, connecting the business to its suppliers. In the case of pharmaceuticals, connecting the business to its regulators. It allows relationships to be much more close, much more involved, more intense.

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Question 2
What are the benefits and the risks of electronic commerce?

Answer
The benefits of electronic commerce are probably manifold. One is that the business can run more efficiently internally, which saves costs. The availability of more information and a closer relationship means more value to the consumer, or more value to the customer, if it is business-to-business. There are risks involved in e-commerce: there are still concerns today about security, although again the technologies exist to close those risks. It is question of agreeing and standardising those. And this seems to be well underway.

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Question 3
You say that consumers will have the choice between privacy and benefit and convenience. What does this mean?

Answer
Today, if you were a very private person, and you were very concerned, you probably would never use a credit card or any card of any kind, because then someone has a list of everything you have bought. So if you were very concerned about privacy today, would probably only use cash, but there is not a lot of convenience in this. So today people choose to use instruments that could surrender their privacy and they do so for convenience. Ultimately, the choice is theirs, and ultimately they still depend on the government and laws to protect them.

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Question 4
But the real risk is that people will be tracked in every moment of their life through the Net in every action that they do. How is it possible to protect them?

Answer
It is true that the more you rely on the network, the more you could be tracked. There are some technology ìfixesî that would allow you to appear as a multiple of different people on the network. Each one of them would have verifiably good credit, but it would be very difficult to know that you were the same person here who was there. This is possible. I donít think this is a likely scenario. Instead, we will rely on good laws and good security. We need to deal with this, because the genie has come out of the bottle. You canít ìuninventî this, you canít make it go away. We really do need to make sure that citizens are protected, because this is going to happen.

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Question 5
What have you personally bought on the Net?

Answer
I have purchased a computer, a number of books and music CDs. Those will turn up in the statistics for retail trade on the network. What will not turn up is that Iíve used the network to research many other products, to learn about the products, to learn about the alternatives, so that when I went to buy through some other channel, I was much more knowledgeable, I knew exactly what I wanted and where the best deal was. This is very difficult to track in terms of benefit of electronic commerce but it is a very strong use of the network today.

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Question 6
And another strong user of the network today is the virtual representation of every business. Can you explain how the Net is replacing the old reality?

Answer
I would say that the network doesnít replace the old reality, it augments it. For instance, thereís the Levi application, where you can be measured in a store, and then they can make a custom pair of jeans just for your measurements. They have a virtual representation of you in the system, and you get a physical product from them. So It is both: they added the virtual representation of you to the real representation of you so that they can serve you in a way that you could not have been served before, with a much more customised one-to-one product.

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Question 7
But there is also a new way to organise companies, virtual banking for example. Can you give us an example of this?

Answer
Virtual banking and direct banking allow you to have banking services without the cost of a branch bank. A recent example we participated in was creating Advanced Bank in Germany. Each branch, if they built physical branches, would cost around US$2 million to build, another ten or twenty employees for every branch they added. Instead you have a telephone or the Internet and you build a call centre once, and you could support thousands of new customers without the bricks. You could support them with experts, whereas if you had to populate two hundred branches with people, each one would be good but not necessarily an expert in the field of financial investments, mortgages. But with a virtual bank, if I have a very complex question, I can ensure that it goes to the right expert to handle it.

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Question 8
To give another example in which Andersen Consulting participates, what is the situation with business-to-business?

Answer
Well, we have a number of business-to-business experiences. One that we did not participate in, but which is a very interesting case, was collaborative forecasting and replenishment. This is the case where two businesses agree to share data that they have not necessarily shared before. In this particular case the manufacturer of a mouthwash collaborated with a major retailer. Each forecaster used to make their own forecast, try the best they could, but if they missed, it could be very expensive. If I make too much product, then I have inventory costs because it sits around. If I donít buy enough products, it runs out and the customers get mad and leave my store. So the risks are high when making the wrong forecast. Using these technologies, associated with electronic commerce, the two forecasters share their assumptions, share what knowledge they have been able to glean from the marketplace, and together come up with a forecast that is more accurate and both sides, the buyer and the seller of the product, end up benefiting from that. Weíre going to see more and more of this sharing of data that used to be kept inside the enterprise through these technologies and techniques.

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Question 9
Does Andersen Consulting also research or help the public administration in the organisation of work?

Answer
When we talk about electronic commerce sometimes we think about it only in terms of business. But in fact the same technologies are being used to reinvent government in many ways. In government services, services to the citizen, if you replace ìcustomerî and ìbuyerî with ìcitizenî, again you have an opportunity to serve the citizen in ways that are much more powerful than in the past. The way government has evolved many different agencies serve the same citizen. Sometimes around the same subject. One example is that of a welfare client. A welfare client needs to know about their benefits, they need to know about job training opportunities, they need to know about job openings, they need to know if they got a job or went to training who would take care other children. These are in so many places - different agencies, different companies, different places - that It is very complicated and when people get out of work It is even more complicated.

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Question 10
There is a case in Cambridge, isn't there?

Answer
Yes. In twenty different organisations in the Cambridge area in the UK some government, some private enterprise, some volunteer organisations pooled their thoughts on how best to help somebody who was coming off welfare and trying to get back to work. They built a web site that would combine all this information to make it easy for a welfare client to be able to answer all of these questions. We then made this web site available on public kiosks that you could put in libraries, in government buildings, in some private enterprises, so that they wouldnít have to have their own Internet access. They could go to the public kiosk and they could find their potential work, their benefits, and the system allowed them to make notes that the system would keep for them so they could keep track of where they were in trying to find work or which of the child care organisations looked best for them. The early results are anecdotal but there have been some very good cases where people have been successful in getting back to work much faster using these techniques.

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Question 11
Don't you think that for people it will be rather boring, because shopping is also a special experience. How will it be possible to retain this experience on the Net or in cyberspace?

Answer
Shopping is very much a social experience, and some people will still want to go to a physical mall to get that shopping experience. But you can also add that sharing, that meeting of other people, by using the network. I donít know about Europe but in the United States, if you look at teenagers in the evening after school, instead of watching television, now sometimes theyíre using the network to socialise with each other. And they can meet people they know in their neighbourhood and other people. Now, take that idea, and add shopping to it. You could go together to a virtual place, add entertainment to it - because you can make some of these sites very entertaining, the way you might find entertainment in a mall - then add to it all the information you can give them and you might have a very positive shopping experience that is still social but is also virtual. So these are experiments that are being conducted. It is too early to tell exactly how people will respond, but it is possible.

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Question 12
What about advertising? Will there be new ways to use a virtual channel for advertising?

Answer
There have been quite a few studies as to whether advertising on the Internet has been successful or not. I think that some of these studies are holding the Net to a higher standard than, for instance, traditional advertising. In traditional advertising they conduct studies after the fact to see if you got an impression or if you saw it. On the Net theyíre asking harder questions: Did you see, did you buy? Well that is not a fair comparison. The benefit of advertising on the Net is you can tell what there was about it that interested the viewer. So they see something and they click it. OK, that is an impression. And if they click again and again, they go deeper and deeper; now you have a lot more information about what exactly about this product or advertisement they were interested in. There is, I think, a fair amount of revenue being driven off capturing eyeballs. The model is still evolving but I think it eventually will be successful.

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Question 13
Do you believe in push technology?

Answer
I believe in push technology to create pull. Let me explain. I donít believe in push technology if I didnít ask for it. Because it makes me crazy. It is like my mail box at home filled with stuff I didnít ask for. But if it if I say Iím interested in this, please tell me if something changes, and they tell me briefly, this is good, because otherwise I might not know. One of my favourite examples is I bought a book on Amazon.com. They said: If new books are published on this subject, would you like us to tell you? I said yes. Normally, they say: If we have a special or if we have any information on any of our products... I say" no, I donít want that mail. But on that one subject, yes. Six months later I got a very short message saying: Brand new book coming out in two months, this is the author, this is the subject. This was exactly on the subject I was interested in. This a service to me, It is not an annoyance. I think push can be very powerful in this way of making a market for something sooner than it would have if I had just waited to find the book or maybe never found the book. This is a very powerful idea.

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