Digital library (interview) RAI Educational

Peter Caiazzi

Milan 10/19/96

"The New Generation of Netscape"

SUMMARY:

  • Netscape began with Marc Andreessen and Jim Clark who worked on a hyper media project with CERN, which created the explosion on the Internet (1).
  • 45 million copies of Netscape have been distributed; Netscape is everywhere (2).
  • The browser war is over. Netscape has not lost market share with the introduction of Microsoft products and is now switching its focus to Intranet (3).
  • Intranets make the communication among the different systems within a company easier (4).
  • Netscape and Sun are very close partners because they have the same philosophy. Netscape is pushing open standards, and Sun licenses Java, their network object-oriented language free (5).
  • The Netscape Communicator is the next generation of universal client. It can run anywhere, Macintosh, Windows 95, Windows 3.1 and UNIX. You have one tool on your desktop which does everything: mail, collaboration, directory services, calendaring and scheduling, and WWW (6).
  • Oracle Corporation is a provider of data bases and is concerned with servers and in particularly data base servers. Netscape believes that in the new network paradigm, there may be many smaller servers or medium-sized servers, some old mainframe servers and then, of course, clients (7).
  • Netscape has started up a new company called Actra, an electronic commerce company. which will have business-to-business electronic transactions like EDI, electronic data interchange. The other component is what were originally called by Netscape the commercial applications or the Internet applications. Netscape has three commercial applications called the publishing system, the merchant system and the community system (8).
  • Netscape will soon be announcing projects in Italy. and has opened an office in Milan (9).
  • Jim Clark, the founder of Netscape, has opened a new company called Navio to make sure that the navigator will be adopted and will be ready for all future generations of devices. This will include television, and small, hand-held devices like the new Nokia phone, which also has Internet access build into it (10).
  • Within a year the NC computer might begin to move into the Intranet. The first market will not be the mass market but within a corporate or a enterprise network (11).

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INTERVIEW:

Question 1
Mr. Caiazzi, you have been in Netscape from the beginning. Can you tell us about this company and the role it has acquired on the Internet?

Answer
The company began with Marc Andreessen and Jim Clark. Most people know of Jim Clark because he founded Silicon Graphics, the workstation company well-known for special effects in Hollywood movies.Marc Andreessen was a graduate student at the University of Illinois, and they worked on a project that was really hyper media, together with CERN, which is responsible for much of the Internet protocols. This project really created the explosion on the Internet. Before the WWW, which is the graphic part of the Internet, there was e-mail, and it was file transfer. But once they put images and sounds on the Internet and created an easy way to access these sounds and images in a very user-friendly way, much like the Macintosh, it became very popular and it began to grow with this 100 percent number of site increases, 100 percent number of clients accessing the Internet every, say, four months. This was really the explosion.

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Question 2
How many copies of Netscape have been distributed and sold in the world?

Answer
I don’t know exactly how many we’ve sold, but in terms of distribution there’s been 45 million. It’s now the most popular personal computer application. This is of course due to the big interest in the Internet, but the other thing special about Netscape is it’s everywhere. We even put Netscape on Linux, which has a very big following in Europe and in the US with computer hobbyists. It’s a free version of an operating system.

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Question 3
What about the browser war? This summer Bill Gates started strong competition with Netscape. What has happened since then?

Answer
We feel the browser war is over. We haven’t lost any market share with the new introduction of the Microsoft products. We keep upgrading at a very fast rate. They haven’t been able to keep up. Our features are coming out faster. They’re always made on all platforms, not just on Microsoft. We include UNIX, we include Macintosh, we include Linux. We’ve lost no market share. They try very hard. They’re a very good competitor but we’ve won that war and we’re now switching our focus to instead of just being the Internet company, which people think of us as, we’re marketing ourselves as an Intranet company. And the focus is a little bit different. What are the needs of businesses, what are enterprises needs, such as directory services, certificate services? This is our future, and this something that nobody else is doing.

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Question 4
Can you explain the concept of Intranet and what kind of product Netscape will deliver for this user?

Answer
The Intranet really to some extent already exists. Companies, especially the large multinationals, already have an information infrastructure for billing, for keeping track of sales information, for keeping track of inventory. These electronic systems exist. Now, what we’re doing is we’re making the communication among the different systems easier. So there might be a network of mainframes, and a different disjoint network of personal computers, and there might be Novell computers, Macintoshes. What we’re doing now is creating a platform for all of this information to be distributed with a common user interface. The user interface is the Netscape communicator, which you could say is the next generation of the navigator. It includes much more functionality. The types of services that this will include are things like directory services, certificate services, calendaring services for scheduling appointments, but this is going to be done, again, on a multi-platform basis, so that regardless of whether you have an application on a mainframe, a UNIX workstation, an NT personal computer or a Macintosh, these will all integrate and you’ll have the same interface and that’s what we’re doing that’s very new. Some of this functionality already exists but it only exists in a proprietary way. So we’re opening it up and that’s really what the Intranet is all about. The Intranet is bringing the protocols and the servers and the applications of the Internet which have done so well in making the Internet this fantastic place to communicate with people from different countries, people even with different languages. This is what brings us together. This is what will bring corporations together to increase their productivity.

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Question 5
A new language, Java, was created to be used with all kinds of platforms. What is the relationship between Netscape and Sun, the company that makes Java?

Answer
Netscape and Sun are very close partners. Sun licenses their Java technology. Java is a network object-oriented language, so it is a fantastic language for the Internet. It’s network-based so you can build applications that will run on the network. The key here is that the application does not reside on a PC. That’s why there’s all this talk now about the network computer, the NC. This NC, frankly, doesn’t need to have an operating system. It doesn’t need to have a Windows 95 or a Mac interface. All it has is a navigator or the Netscape communicator, the next generation. And this will download programs when it needs them and only when it needs them. It does this in what we call a just-in-time basis. So if you want to write a document on a word processor like Microsoft Word, if there is a Java applet that can do that function, then it’s downloaded from the network in real time and it’s run. And this is a big savings because there’s no maintaining software because the software is maintained in one location for all users. So this is really the strength of Java, the fact that the programs - what you actually run - are delivered just in time. Now, in terms of our relationship with Sun, again, we’re talking free licensing. It is a very close relationship between the two because philosophically we’re the same. We’re pushing open standards, they’re pushing Java, which is a language they invented, and they’re licensing it for free and they want it to be the standard on the Internet. I think we see today that’s already the case. There are a lot of Java applets which began to run with Netscape Navigator Version 2.

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Question 6
What’s the next generation of the Netscape Communicator like and what other programs does Netscape have for the network computers?

Answer
The Communicator is our next generation of universal client. It is universal in that it can run anywhere, on Linux, it runs on Macintosh, Windows 95, Windows 3.1 and UNIX. So it’s universal and it’s what you as an end user would actually work with. It’s your interface either into your corporation - the Intranet - or the Internet. The various modules that it contains are the old Navigator, which would be the WWW; it includes e-mail, which will also have cryptography built in so you can have secure messages. It’s a open standard. S-MIME. It will also have news or collaboration, the next generation of NNTP or Internet news. It’s also going to include calendaring and scheduling for making appointments and reserving rooms or resources. It will also include a directory service component so that you can find various things like somebody’s address on the Internet or within a corporation you can find their public key to send cryptographic messages to them. This is the next generation. Of course, the other component that it includes, which is a very important distinguishing feature against Microsoft, is what we call the Gold Component. And this is where we can edit HTML documents, edit these rich content documents within the navigator or within the next generation communicator. So you have one tool on your desktop which does everything: mail, collaboration, directory services, calendaring and scheduling, and WWW.

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Question 7
Larry Ellison in a recent conference said that in the near future there will be more need for the browser, the browser will become transparent. How will the design of the browser change in your opinion?

Answer
Well, we might see things a little differently than Larry Ellison. Larry Ellison is the president of Oracle Corporation which is a provider of data bases. They’re really concerned with servers and in particularly data base servers. His ideal world is where there are a number of servers which run big Oracle data bases filled with images and texts, and you use all the Oracle tools to access them. You might be accessing the data through Netscape Navigator. It would be possible. So he thinks that the navigator or the client is the least important part because he wants his data base centralised. We see that in this new distributed world, this new network paradigm, there may be many smaller servers or medium-sized servers, some old mainframe servers and then, of course, clients. It’s going to include all components. I don’t think our vision is going to change to fit that of Larry Ellison. But clearly our Netscape Navigator is going to continue in the direction that we’re going, which is to focus on Intranets, to focus on enterprise needs, the calendaring, the scheduling, all the things that corporations do today but they have to do with a proprietary platform. They have to decide on an operating system and then from that operating system they are given the services. What we’re doing is we’re making these services one layer higher on the technology level, so it’s at the network layer not at the server or client layer.

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Question 8
There are two new directions in Internet. One is towards electronic commerce and the other is towards entertainment because there will the possibility to have Internet on TV. How is Netscape preparing for this?

Answer
In fact, within the past year Netscape has started up a new company called Actra. Actra is our electronic commerce company. So Netscape is very much focused on the Intranet, the corporate Internet. Actra, on the other hand, is going to have business-to-business electronic transactions like EDI, electronic data interchange. This company will handle that. That’ll be one component. The other component is what were originally called by Netscape the commercial applications or the Internet applications. This is where, for example, you could sell a Wall Street Journal subscription or a New York Times subscription or a La Repubblica subscription on-line, receive payment on-line and all of these users could be maintained in a very user-friendly way. Again, the system manager or the person who runs these services uses the navigator, they’re behind the firewall so they’re protected, all their transactions are protected. And then you have the users, the accessors of this information on the Internet who could be from anywhere in the world. And they can make a secure transaction for payment. So Netscape already has three commercial applications called the publishing system, the merchant system and the community system. The publishing system is used for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and it’s used with customers in Europe like Sweden Post. These customers of ours, these partners of ours, they accept payment on-line. And using our cryptographic standards of SSL, they’re sure that this information is passed securely, that some hacker won’t be able to access this information. Transactions are stored behind the firewall. The merchant system is a catalogue system, a way of displaying catalogue pages or magazine pages. And if there’s a product that you want to purchase, that you’re happy with, you select various attributes like the colour, the size of a suit or a tie and you could order that on-line and, again, give the payment information. This is also a very popular product. It’s used by MCI, the phone company in America. It’s also used by our largest catalogue company in the US called J.C.Penny. It’s used in Europe quite extensively. ICL had a project with Barclays Bank. We had the project with Sweden Post and they host the largest catalogue of Scandinavia. So these are really popular products. It is a way for us to really jump-start this market because it’s a new market and applications didn’t exist, so these are applications that people can install on their systems and begin electronic commerce immediately.

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Question 9
And what are your projects in Italy?

Answer
We’ll be announcing projects in Italy very soon. One of the reasons in fact that I’m here is to work with some of our partners, given the fact that I’ve worked with our initial clients in the US in building their electronic commerce. But announcements will be made very soon; I’m not able to tell you now. Netscape now has a local presence in Italy. The office was opened in Milan, the country president  and our partners gave a press release on the 17th of October, and we’re going to be very strong in Italy.

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Question 10
Jim Clark, the founder of Netscape, has opened a new company called Navio. What can you say about this?

Answer
Navio’s mission is a little bit different than Netscape. They want to make sure that the navigator will be adopted and will be ready for all future generations of devices. This will include television, and small, hand-held devices like the new Nokia phone, which also has Internet access build into it. It will be for these unusual devices that don’t necessarily have a market share yet but are really the emerging technologies, things like web TV, the NC computer, the smaller devices like the Nokia phone. We’re going to make sure that the navigator or the next generation, which we call the communicator, can work anywhere, everywhere.

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Question 11
What’s your vision? How long will this new technology take to spread?

Answer
That will again depend on these partners who are developing the devices. We’re starting to see a lot of activity in the NC computer market. Oracle has got a very strong initiative there. And there are other companies in Japan that have very strong initiatives, so we’re going to be working closely with these companies. Sun Microsystems also has a very strong initiative for the NC computer. I think within a year the NC computer we might see some movement into the Intranet. I think that will be the first market. It will not be the mass market. It won’t be the recreational user, but it will be within a corporate or a enterprise network.

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